I hope you will help me resolve the issue that has been tormenting me since my trip to St. Petersburg. The fact is that I have noticed before that in this city they speak somehow not our language, not “Moscow”. But most often it concerned some slang words. And then it caught my eye: on all the display cases, on the menu in the dining room, there was some kind of “KURA” flashing. WHAT KURA is this? It turned out that it was nothing more than our usual chicken - grilled, or, say, boiled in soup... I was surprised by such a name for a familiar item - after all, since childhood we were taught that chicken is the only correct form of this word. I wasn’t too lazy and looked into dictionaries. Dahl has such a word, but Dahl just collected obsolete, colloquial and dialect words!! And the initial form of the word Dahl is given by m.r. “chicken” (this is the one that is in cabbage soup or plucked :-)). There are no such forms in the Ozhegovsky dictionary; only 1 correct initial form of the word is named there - “chicken”. And as far as I know, this is exactly what has been said for the last 50 years. In this case, it is not clear why this extinct dialect KURA appears in the cultural landscape of our country, not just in conversations, but on industrially manufactured signs, shop windows, and so on?? It turns out that even the most cultural city in Russia is no stranger to parochialism and dialect, but the residents of St. Petersburg are so proud of their level of culture, and their “kura” is the same as in some village?
I would be grateful if you help me deal with this strange bird and the inhabitants of St. Petersburg at the same time :-)
Sincerely,
Elena.
Answer
The first is about the word. Plural form chickens neutral. But the singular form is chicken And chicken- differ stylistically (which is noted in all explanatory dictionaries). Chicken- neutral, chicken- regional, colloquial word. Literary: chickens, chicken meat, chicken, grilled chickens. But in stable phrases, which, as a rule, have a colloquial connotation: wet chickens(about pitiful-looking people) write like chickens with their paws(inaudible) blind chickens(about people with poor vision). Wed: Chickens don't eat money; the chickens laugh. This is what B. Timofeev wrote about the word kura in the book “Are We Speaking Correctly?” (L., 1960): “Kura... You can hear and read this word everywhere: in the market, in the store, in the dining room, and in the restaurant (on the menu). In literary speech, using kura instead of chicken is unacceptable.”
The second is about the cultural capital. We assure you that in Moscow you can find just as many signs with similar mistakes, because the attitude towards language norms is determined primarily by the general culture, and not by the place of residence of the native speaker. One of our employees in a Moscow store read the following inscription on the price tag: “Sausage with salts.” We hope you guessed what kind of sausage we were talking about.
In the first part I will talk about “Chicken or Chicken”. About the WTO, as well as how Putin and we were deceived again, will be in the second part.
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Let's go... about chickens!
I was wildly surprised after reading the Internet. It turns out that almost 100% of young people are sure that Moscow is literate, but the cultural capital says - chicken! There was nothing like this before, for Leningraders - only chicken!
One of my first childhood shocks from trips to Moscow - CHICKENS live there!
I only heard chicken from my fellow citizens of St. Petersburg. The price tags in the store are also chicken. Mom sometimes said “chicken” - these were the kind of chickens on sale - skinny, blue, and therefore cheap. Mom called them “chickens for seventy-five rubles.” Like these ones:
The plural form kura is neutral. But the singular form - chicken and hen - differ stylistically (which is noted in all explanatory dictionaries). Chicken is a neutral word, kura is a regional, colloquial word. Literary: chickens, chicken meat, chicken, grilled chickens. But in stable phrases, which, as a rule, have a colloquial connotation: wet hens (about pitiful-looking people), they write like hens with their paws (inaudible), blind hens (about people with poor vision). Wed: Chickens don’t peck for money; the chickens laugh. This is what B. Timofeev wrote about the word kura in the book “Are We Speaking Correctly?” (L., 1960): “Kura... You can hear and read this word everywhere: in the market, in the store, in the dining room, and in the restaurant (on the menu). In literary speech, the use chicken instead of chicken is unacceptable".
It is clearing up a little, but the Muscovites are advancing. I was shocked by this link -
A search in books.google.ru finds:
. "chickens" approximately 138,000 (0.29 sec.)
. "chickens" approximately 9,170 (0.22 sec.)
. "chickens" approximately 14,800 (0.21 sec.)
The author concludes that everyone in the country says KURA! I immediately imagined - in a remote Siberian or Far Eastern village, Baba Manya is typing the word KURA into Google with one finger. This is our computer country...
Maybe we can take a look here? D. I. Rosenthal (2003) - “Chicken, many. chickens [less often chickens].”
One thing must be a chicken, and a flock can consist of chickens...
We know, of course, that Muscovites wear turtlenecks, and we are badlon, they eat buckwheat, and we eat buckwheat... I won’t talk about the entrance and the curb. But the chicken amazes me! It’s amazing that I read people’s phrases on the Internet: chicken is a thing in St. Petersburg, not so in Moscow. The absolute opinion of young Internet users.
On one forum, a person from Ryazan wrote:
“When I was asked for the first time in St. Petersburg: “...will you have chicken with buckwheat with a bun or bread?” “I was stuck for a long time.”
To be honest, I wouldn’t immediately understand what they were asking me either. For Moscow, it is still more common to say “chicken”. It doesn’t matter whether she’s running or has already been fried.
This is definitely a store in Moscow. It says KURA!
A brilliant comment that explains everything, I read on another forum
as my St. Petersburg friends once explained to me, chicken is alive, covered in feathers, chicken is meat where body parts are not recognizable, and chicken is exactly what turns on the grill
Well, the people of St. Petersburg themselves didn’t come up with the idea of grilling game. This arrived they introduced it and wrote it on the stalls, they didn’t miss Moscow, they saw enough...
The company got out brilliantly in its fresh advertising
At Imperia LLC (St. Petersburg) you can buy wholesale chickens in a wide range. We supply chicken wholesale in both large-scale, medium-sized and small-scale batches
In assortment - then chicken, and wholesale - chicken.... Wholesalers are respected.
Shall we remember?
Several huts stood diagonally; There were several chickens wandering around the street.
A. S. Pushkin, “The Captain's Daughter”, 1836
Where did Pushkin live? In Moscow?
Once the architect came into contact with the bird house.
So what? - their brainchild mixed two natures:
The son of an architect - he attempted to build,
A descendant of a poultry woman - he only built "chickens".
Kozma Prutkov.
And let’s listen to Seryoga:
Quiet wind. The evening is blue and gloomy.
I look with wide eyes.
In Persia the chickens are exactly the same,
Like here in straw Ryazan.
The same month, only a little wider,
A little yellower on the other edge.
You and I love in this world
It's the same with everyone, my dear.
The nights are warm, I’m not able to, I’m not able to,
I can’t help but glorify and sing them.
Also, girls here hug cute ones
Until the second, until the roosters, until the third.
Ah, love! She's familiar to everyone
Even cats know this feeling
Only me with my homeland and without a home,
I modestly collect crumbs from her.
There is no happiness. But I won’t grieve -
There are chickens dear to the heart everywhere,
For me scattered everywhere
Young sensual fools.
With them I accept all the joys
And for them I only say in verse:
That is why, you know, people love the earth,
That she smelled like roosters.
S. Yesenin
July 1925
Chickens live in the village. Seryoga said. And in Moscow. Look
No one has ever called St. Petersburg a village, but Moscow...
And you say - stupid as a chicken? Nevertheless, the chickens know almost as many words as Ellochka the cannibal. They use more than 10 signal words! Wikipedia writes
Domestic chicken has dozens of sound signals. The alarm clearly distinguishes between air and ground enemies. The alarm signal from the first is a long continuous cry, and the alarm signal from the second is a split cry.
The chicken, while in the egg, begins vocal communication with the hen a few days before hatching, using about a dozen signals, for example:
. The “let me go” signal is a sharp sound, reminiscent of the squeak of a newly hatched chicken when picked up.
. The pleasure signal is a high-pitched chirping sound with which the chick from the egg reacts to the soothing clucking of the hen or to her signal in connection with the appearance of food.
. The nesting signal is a searching and alarming sound emitted from an egg, expressing the chick’s desire to nest under the mother’s wing. The chicken reacts to it by clucking or moving, which calms it down.
. The alarm signal is a high-pitched squeak, the egg's response to the hen's alarming warning signal about the appearance of enemies.
I'll go and make a signal of pleasure! Tick-tweet! Cluck please...
Moscow however...:
http://www.telesem.ru/wemen-club/family/1221-perekusim-po-bystromu
But kiosks all over the country - only Kura-grill! I didn’t find a single chicken, sometimes chickens write.
Are the kiosks the same only set up by people who come in large numbers? But the artists who paint here are from St. Petersburg! It's a shame, guys...
I read it on youth forums. They say that in the south they write grilled chicken. But everyone is sure that chicken is a St. Petersburg word. NO!!!
I make chicken soup, meaning by this word chicken, or chicken meat. And in the store I ask not for chickens, but for chickens. In plural. "Do you have chickens?"
But I don’t call chicken “chicken” and I hope I never will.
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second part of the post -
[ husband. genus] rooster, peven, petel, kochet: hen, hen, in some places lower. and Cossack. smokes, Vlad. kureta [fem. genus] trigger, chicken will diminish. female chicken, rooster; female black grouse and other birds of the chicken genus. looking for magnification large, Dutch chicken; chickens plural roosters and hens.
The rafters on peasant huts (northeast), made of stick or kokora, are called chicken, its top rests on the horse, the knee to the eaves and to the bottom; The laths are cut from the bottom, and a stream, a trench, is placed on the hook below, into which the plank, forced by the transverse battens, rests.
It is an iron hook on which a washbasin and a towel are hung.
Itsa Vologda pike trap. Indian rooster and hen, Melleagris gallopavo, canas, blinders, fools, or: kuran vyat. Kurenka Vologda Kurash and Kurashka Vologda. Psk. Kuryl Psk. chicken, chicken Vologda. kurun, kurukh and kurusha, -shka east. Kurukhan, -nka Ryaz. _cm. Indian rooster. little lamb, chicken, turkey, chicken. Guinea fowl or guinea fowl, speckled, Numida. Danube or water hen, Kashkaldak, coot, Fulisa, swims. Water hen, marsh hen, devil hen, large Gallina chloropus; small, Crekh, aka, swamp crake, shepherd, crake. Even the chicken beats on its ashes (and the rooster doesn’t let anyone off the hook). From a chicken comes an egg, and from an egg comes a chicken. ice up to the withers, up to the pig's tail. The filly, the ford, the hen's flood. Itsa is not a bird, ensign (constapel, commissar) is not an officer. Where I go like a fox, chickens haven’t laid eggs for three years! The pacer kicked out the dog. Don't listen to the chickens clucking. and listen to where they pray to God! Each egg carries one egg. Raising children means not counting (plucking) chickens. Chickens roam on foot along our river. A hungry chicken dreams of millet. There is so much work that the chickens are not pecking. Do not rush at the chicken, do not rush at the cat. Itza is not a bird, and crayfish is not a fish (and a warrant officer is not an officer). Itsa is not an aunt, a pig is not a sister! Don't crow like a rooster for a hen, don't own (not be) a man for a woman. It’s not like a rooster crows (and even if she sings, it’s on her own head: they cut off her head). And the chicken has a heart. Like a wet chicken. Blind chicken. How chickens roam, a lot; uselessly. The blind chicken is all wheat. This is the chickens laughing. Itsu eggs are not taught. Itza and all three money, and he drinks that too. Even the chicken is brave on her little street. yak legs, hooks and suction cup. Needless to say, you can’t milk a chicken. Pinch someone else's chicken, but hold your own by the wings. Learn from the chicken: rake and pick up. A wet chicken, and also a rooster! It's standing on one leg - it's cold. They cackle, to bad weather. They wag their tails towards the snowstorm. We are fighting, to the guests. They shout at the roost, leading to a domestic quarrel. The squawking of chickens on the roost is not good. If chickens do not hide from the rain, it will continue to rain for a long time. The egg pecks grain by grain, but lives well (sometimes). And the chicken would not be happy to go to the feast, but they would drag her by her crest (by her wing). And the chicken is called (or dragged) to the feast. The chickens are hungry: but they don’t bite the millet! Crested chickens and chickens are kept in the yards. God is sorry (to give) smoking, but the devil will take a pig (ram). He gets drunk and fights with kings. and if he sleeps through it, he’s so afraid of chicken. It's not good for the chicken to crow the rooster. The letter is like chickens wandering around! Go to bed with the chickens, get up with the roosters. Not a chicken (happiness), you can’t feed it. And the chicken crows like a rooster. The chicken is good with its feathers, but the meat is even better. She gave birth to a bull, and the little piglet laid an egg. It doesn’t get carried away like a chicken with an egg. You tell the chicken, and she tells the whole village. glasses in earrings, coquettes in boots. It's a shame and the chicken will hang. A skinny chicken produces skinny eggs. He has no money and no chickens to eat. The woman cackles, but the rooster is silent, a hint of a woman and a man. I came in from the wrong street, I would have robbed all the chickens. The craftsman is like a chicken: whatever he steps on, he will peck! It's the egg that goes to waste, not the chicken! the chicken flies around the hut, towards the frost, the chicken is planted secretly, without strangers; pour eggs from the host's hat. If a hen crows like a rooster, then she is laying. Is the hen sitting on golden eggs, and her tail is made of wood? frying pan on coals and frying pan. glasses with a crest, and bow to Kazhin? water dispenser. points checker about seventy shirts; the wind blew, and the backside knew. yak name day; smoking holiday. Nov. 1. Kozma and Demyan handicraftsmen, chicken coops. To Kozma and Demyan the chickens: bring the chicken’s butt. Kozma and Demyan, and the Myrrh-Bearing wives, chicken death, slaughtering chickens. On Kozmo-Demyan, chicken on the table, tamb. cha, smoking well, chicken, chicken [male. genus] kurchenya [_sr. genus] app. south chick. ov, Kurin, Kuritsyn, Kurkin, Kurochkin; kurchatin, kuryatin, kurchenkin, kurenkin; Kurushkin, Kuryshev, Kurykhanov, etc. belong to them. y, chicken, chicken, chicken, sometimes chicken, related to chickens. Hut on chicken legs, in the story. yachy. chicken broth, soup. nice rows where they sell livestock. yak blindness, several plants: Ranunculus arvensis, field toad (buttercup); Caltha palustris, yellowhead, yolk; Chelidonium majus, celandine, chistik, gusset, warthog. yak saliva, plant. Lamium purpureum. other, chicken blindness, eye disease. without pain, but taking away vision from sunset to sunrise: for such a patient there is no dawn and no light from the fire. another pestilence yak wombs. plant Stellaria media, woodlice. full-time [male] genus ] plant Cissa. Yatina [fem. genus] chicken meat. itsyna [fem. genus] Psk. hard chicken, meaning hook, roofing sticks or chicken;
Crow in the hut. yatnik [noun] genus ] a place where chickens are locked up, a barn; poultry house, cage in which chickens are carried: a lattice under a bunk.
Trader of chickens and livestock;
chicken hunter, chicken stealer:
big hawk.
Plant. Galeopsis tetrahit, gill. stinking hogweed, pitulnik, spoolwort, Galeopsis ladanum. What did the chicken coop spread out? that his mouth was open. They fumigate the chicken coop on Sylvester, they talk about fever, January 2. yatnitsa [fem. genus] nickname of the fox;
thieving dog. yatnya [fem. genus ] chicken coop, meaning barn, cages for chickens. nickname [male genus] chicken coop, chicken coop, tver. Psk. eagle chickens
A rich round pie with chicken and eggs: instead of chicken, it includes duck and beef.
A kind of roll with chicken baked in it; this is wedding bread and salt to the young, from all relatives (don.). eating chickens turkey;
a sluggish, sluggish woman. akhtan, kurukhtan [male. genus] turukhtan, bird with a throat, Tringa pugnakh; The hens are all grey, and the cockerels are maned (in the spring), like yard roosters. Hunters distinguish three species: kurukhtleva, large swamp and small. fall off Kurolashka east partridge sib. Kuroptakha, Kuroptashka Psk. hard chicken southern chicken chicken partridge [fem. genus ] famous game, bird of the chicken genus Pedrix cinerea. white paste. Tetrao lagopus, white grouse.
ohta, partridge, agile woman, small in stature. Opatkin, belongs to her. opachiy, chicken-eater, partridge-eater, related to it. Opachi broods stay in open fields in July. hail [male] genus] the crow of roosters and this time, midnight and dawn;
old fortune telling or divination by the crowing of roosters. pawed, short-legged. osadni [noun] genus] pl. south perch or nest, kuroslep, kuroshest of resins. Psk. blind [husband] genus ] a person who has night blindness.
Name of many plants: Cornus sanguinea, glog; Adoha, pajama, pale girl; Anagallis, full-colored color, tainted sickness, freckle; Caltha, yellowhead; Cotoneaster, serviceberry, dogwood? Chishkova tree; Ranunculus, different species, toadgrass, buttercup, etc. blind grass, plants. glog, mole blind, Cornus sanguinea. coverage, kurotsap [male. genus] hawk coop;
petty thief; bribe taker, snatch altynnik, kuroshchap [male. genus ] It’s true he stole chickens: apparently he’s a chicken! i.e., hands are shaking. touch [male] genus] abusive red tape. oad vol. chicken eater [noun] genus] who eats chickens. The fox is a chicken eater. - potion, plant Mercurialis perensis, scilla, chistuha, green grass.
Rotentilla, wood?
In other dictionaries:
KUR - Big Encyclopedic Dictionary (BED)
- Efremova T. F. New dictionary of the Russian language
- Explanatory Dictionary of the Russian Language by S. Ozhegov
- Ozhegov S.I., Shvedova N.Yu. Explanatory dictionary of the Russian language
- Explanatory dictionary of the Russian language. Ed. D. N. Ushakova...
What is the correct way to say hen or hen? and got the best answer
Answer from Knopa[guru]
But it seems to me that the chicken is still alive, and then a chicken. Then you can ask the question: what is the correct way to eat cow or beef...
Answer from 2 answers[guru]
Hello! Here is a selection of topics with answers to your question: How to correctly say chicken or hen?
Answer from Olessia[guru]
Chicken!! Only in the provinces, and the deaf speak kura)
Answer from User deleted[active]
maybe chicken?
Answer from Irina Gerasimova[expert]
It seems to me that chicken... somehow sounds more Russian)
Answer from ale[master]
chicken
Answer from Super Io[guru]
chick
Answer from Alla[guru]
chicken. By the way, in St. Petersburg, many people say “chicken,” unfortunately.
Answer from Vladimir Cherkashin[guru]
Kura is chicken as meat. The same thing as a sheep - lamb or a cow - beef. And in St. Petersburg, apparently, many people speak correctly. No matter how surprising it is.
Sincerely,
Vladimir Ch.
Answer from N.S.[guru]
Dictionary of difficulties
CHICKEN, plural chickens, kind. chickens (plural chickens, chickens are not recommended).
Explanatory and word-formative
CHICKEN w.
1. Poultry that lays eggs; female rooster.
2. decomposition Chicken meat for food; chicken.
kura, -y (simple to chicken) Explanatory word-formation
KURA w. decomposition -decrease
1. Same as: chicken.
Answer from Ifat Ziyatdinov[active]
It depends what you mean, if it’s a river then the Kura, if it’s a bird then it’s the Chicken
Answer from Zhanna Borisova[guru]
Chicken, but chickens.
What is the correct way to say hen or hen? and got the best answer
Answer from Knopa[guru]
But it seems to me that the chicken is still alive, and then a chicken. Then you can ask the question: what is the correct way to eat cow or beef...
Answer from 2 answers[guru]
Hello! Here is a selection of topics with answers to your question: How to correctly say chicken or hen?
Answer from Olessia[guru]
Chicken!! Only in the provinces, and the deaf speak kura)
Answer from User deleted[active]
maybe chicken?
Answer from Irina Gerasimova[expert]
It seems to me that chicken... somehow sounds more Russian)
Answer from ale[master]
chicken
Answer from Super Io[guru]
chick
Answer from Alla[guru]
chicken. By the way, in St. Petersburg, many people say “chicken,” unfortunately.
Answer from Vladimir Cherkashin[guru]
Kura is chicken as meat. The same thing as a sheep - lamb or a cow - beef. And in St. Petersburg, apparently, many people speak correctly. No matter how surprising it is.
Sincerely,
Vladimir Ch.
Answer from N.S.[guru]
Dictionary of difficulties
CHICKEN, plural chickens, kind. chickens (plural chickens, chickens are not recommended).
Explanatory and word-formative
CHICKEN w.
1. Poultry that lays eggs; female rooster.
2. decomposition Chicken meat for food; chicken.
kura, -y (simple to chicken) Explanatory word-formation
KURA w. decomposition -decrease
1. Same as: chicken.
Answer from Ifat Ziyatdinov[active]
It depends what you mean, if it’s a river then the Kura, if it’s a bird then it’s the Chicken
Answer from Zhanna Borisova[guru]
Chicken, but chickens.
